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i feel like i should post this.

  • i received a PM from the admin today about mod duties saying that i have not been pulling my weight around here. i haven't posted on these boards a lot recently due to my job and my personal life taking over, but i frequently visit and lurk to make sure things are okay because i know that i have priorities here.

    the thing is, when i come onto the boards, things are already done. if there are problems, someone covers it before i get the chance to. another thing, no one is letting me in on anything and i think that's a little screwed up. i have all of you added on myspace, twitter, facebook and msn. i noticed tasha became a mod and i had no idea when or how that happened. i think being a mod, i deserve to know the changes around here.

    i'm sorry i don't post as much as i do, but i still paid to use the boards and i still visit them every day and watch and moderate as best i can. the admin told me there are people who think i'm not doing my job and i told them flat out that i think it's impossible for me to do anything with so many people as mods. it will get done before i get the chance to do it due to the fact that i work 8 to 10 hours a day for five or more days a week and have a personal life.

    what i think we should do is even up the modding duties so everyone feels like they're doing a part for it. i don't know if anyone else actually cares enough to do it or wants to give up any power, but i entered the contest to be a mod and it was just pushed in my face that i haven't been doing any of my duties. i didn't just apply for the position on a whim, i wanted the responsibility. i want to help out on here. please give me that chance before people think i'm completely unfit for the job. they clearly didn't think that when they were voting for the mod contest.

    thank you.

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i received a PM from the admin today about mod duties saying that i have not been pulling my weight around here. i haven't posted on these boards a lot recently due to my job and my personal life taking over, but i frequently visit and lurk to make sure things are okay because i know that i have priorities here.

the thing is, when i come onto the boards, things are already done. if there are problems, someone covers it before i get the chance to. another thing, no one is letting me in on anything and i think that's a little screwed up. i have all of you added on myspace, twitter, facebook and msn. i noticed tasha became a mod and i had no idea when or how that happened. i think being a mod, i deserve to know the changes around here.

i'm sorry i don't post as much as i do, but i still paid to use the boards and i still visit them every day and watch and moderate as best i can. the admin told me there are people who think i'm not doing my job and i told them flat out that i think it's impossible for me to do anything with so many people as mods. it will get done before i get the chance to do it due to the fact that i work 8 to 10 hours a day for five or more days a week and have a personal life.

what i think we should do is even up the modding duties so everyone feels like they're doing a part for it. i don't know if anyone else actually cares enough to do it or wants to give up any power, but i entered the contest to be a mod and it was just pushed in my face that i haven't been doing any of my duties. i didn't just apply for the position on a whim, i wanted the responsibility. i want to help out on here. please give me that chance before people think i'm completely unfit for the job. they clearly didn't think that when they were voting for the mod contest.

thank you.

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i noticed tasha became a mod and i had no idea when or how that happened. i think being a mod, i deserve to know the changes around here.

I actually feel the same about this part. Though I don't think only we the mods should know but I really do think that if something as important as adding a moderatore to the SPCrew happens it should not be left un-announced and there should be something telling that to the members too, if possible with the reason but at least to let them know there's another mod.

About the rest of the post...well I don't think I should be the one replying to it, obviously, because it was directed to the admin mostly so I won't say anything else, but it was important for me to comment about that specific thing. (:

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actually the whole post was meant for the mods here because i sent a PM to the admin discussing things too.

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Well then...
I do not think that we should 'even up the modding duties' for a bunch of reasons.
First of all, 'so everyone feels like they're doing a part for it' is not, in my opinion, a reason because the mods is for taking care of the boards, not so the mods will feel satified.
And I don't think it'll be the best for the boards because, for an example, you're now very busy with your job. I, as well, am on the hardest year of high school and I have less time as well. Steph and Tasha have times in their life too, not necessarily right now but in general, that they have less time than usual becuse we all have lives and if someone's in charge or certain thing and then they don't have as much as before they might not do their job as good as should be done and we are not always able to let know that we can't do something right, as well as it wouldn't be fair to give someone extra work before one of the mods is a little busy. So whoever have time to do the things will do them, there are four of us plus admin to make sure there'll be at least one person doing them.

About you having no time? I get it. I have 44 school hours every week, I go to school six days a week, I have tons of homeworks and exams and I also learn drums. There are days I can barely be on the computer, such as Thursday in which I finish school at 5pm and have a drum lesson so I have time to do homeworks only at the evening and after that I can really be on the computer, and then the next day I need to wake up at 7am and that's like that every single week.
So if you see that you don't have time to be on the computer for the SPCrew, try to find it. Make it part of your day.
And if you see that you do not get to do things because others has done them, then come up with ideas and projects that could help, that you could do at your own time and show that you do things and that you are helping to improve the message boards. I do believe you have time in your day to think, sharing an idea would take less than half an hour and then you'd just need to find time making it.

I'm sorry if my post ends up being too long, not answering everything you've said or whatever and I do not at all mean to offense you so I apologize if I did.
I don't think you're a bad mod,I do think you're great for the job and I am glad you were one of those who got choosen.

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i absolutely did NOT post what i did to compare lives with other people. personally, i don't care if you have a bunch of homework and drum lessons and school. i'm sorry if that sounds rude, but it's me speaking the truth. we all have our own priorities other than this board which of course come first, but i'm not here to discuss them and list why i can't be on here completely like i used to be. the only reason i so much as mentioned my job is just to explain that yes, i have other things that need to be tended to before mod duties.

as for "not having time to be around", i stated above that i AM around. i lurk on the boards a LOT of the time. usually at work i'm constantly checking posts to see if people are behaving, if there's anything that needs to be fixed, threads that need to be closed/deleted. posting through my phone is a hassle, which is why i rarely do so nowadays. but i am around. and after i come around, things are already done.

if this is going to turn into one big argument about how busy people's lives are, comparing how they can handle more with the amount they already have, then i don't want to be a part of it. this place was fun for a long time for me and honestly, this makes it feel like all it is? is a hassle.

you might not think it's right to split up duties, but it might be easier to assign SOME things to certain people due to certain times they can be around for it. i was in this to win this and put in things for the forum and the fanclub and the fans, my friends. you're making it look like i only care about myself and feel satisfied, but the sole reason i'm making this post efrat, is because my mod duties could be taken away from me for "not holding up" my position. i'm not sure if you comprehend that. i got a message from the mod asking me if i'm still up for the job. i'm trying to make sure i still have it. how can i make sure i still have it when i can't do anything on here?

this is all just really unfair to me and i don't appreciate how my opinion and how what i think and FINALLY am able to voice is just shrugged off and pushed to the side. if we have four mods (when things could be EASILY accomplished with one or possibly two), i think they should each have a say in things that should be done. i've kept my mouth shut for far too long. i did not get this position to not use it and help out.

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Well you got my posts completely wrong. I'm not trying to arguement with you and I'm not trying to say anything against you and I wasn't trying to tell you that my days are busy too I was just trying to let you know that I understand where you're coming from and tried to give you an advice about how you can still make things happen even if, as you said, you don't get to fix things before others get to it first.
Please don't make me sound like I said something I did not.

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and i finally have an opinion about how things could work out just a little easier and it just gets shrugged and pushed to the side, like i said. i think having so many mods is a mistake. i don't want to be a mod in a forum where i feel like i have to constantly put myself on the defense like i felt compelled to do with my previous post. i'm sorry that i did, but i felt paranoid, i felt like i was being attacked and it didn't help that how i put an opinion out there and it's not even being discussed.

i just don't want to be treated like i was thrown out of the loop when i want to be in it.

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So in other words you are saying.... Tasha leave?

Alright. I'm gone. Enjoy!

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Robyn, no need to be paranoid.
Tasha, no need to be paranoid as well.
No one is trying to push anyone away, out of the loop or kick anyone out so can we just not get into the so known SPCrew drama on the mod discussions?
If you two have problems between each other, please figure it out asap. If there is any problem between all mods then please let's discuss it maturely.

Robyn, your idea was not pushed aside. I just said my opinion about iy. There are still two other mods and the admin.

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this post was due to a PM i got from the admin about if i still want to be a mod around here, plus being a little off-put about not being notified of a new mod. i in no point of my posts say for you to leave.

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Reading your post Robyn. You pretty much informed us all in a very hint way that we lack a life and you have one. That's not cool. If that's not what you intended to do... you still did it.

I wasn't even informed that I had become MOD. So just accept it.
Also, I am not paranoid. I am very realistic. I know Robyn like the back of my hand and I am NOT stupid enough to not realize at how much I am not liked.

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efrat wrote:
If you two have problems between each other, please figure it out asap. If there is any problem between all mods then please let's discuss it maturely.

i wasn't aware there was a problem and i wasn't trying to start one. i don't have a problem so there's nothing for me to discuss or figure out.

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now since i've gotten words put in my mouth and made out to look like a complete bitch when i made this post to help figure out a way for me to get back into the modding loop, i don't want it anymore. if i'm going to have another mod at my throat when i have absolutely no problems with them and they think i hate them for reasons i cannot comprehend because none exist, then i don't want this position.

sorry for pissing anyone off, that was not my intention at all but i somehow managed to do it anyway.

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There obviously is a problem and it's simple to see from your posts, from Tasha's posts and I dunno about my posts, that is yours to judge.
I'm just saying that I know the SPCrew very well and when threads get into these things it only means drama, fight and hate and I do believe that was not the point of anyone's post and definitely not of the Mod Discussions.
Tasha I meant that in a...don't get all 'leaving' for nothing. No one said anything against you, really, so calm damn, eat some cheese and smile. You are liked around here and you know that very well.

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efrat wrote:
There obviously is a problem and it's simple to see from your posts, from Tasha's posts and I dunno about my posts, that is yours to judge.
I'm just saying that I know the SPCrew very well and when threads get into these things it only means drama, fight and hate and I do believe that was not the point of anyone's post and definitely not of the Mod Discussions.
Tasha I meant that in a...don't get all 'leaving' for nothing. No one said anything against you, really, so calm damn, eat some cheese and smile. You are liked around here and you know that very well.

Cheese!

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You know... We are right here. Posting as if we were not and won't see it is NOT cool Robyn.

Just breath... okay? Relax. No one is jumping down anyone's throats. I just said what others have told me... many people you are very close to. It's okay if you hate me. I wish I was told by you... but hey, we move on.

Anyway... let's get to the real issue.

Robyn gets a PM being told she does nothing.
Let's fix this then. You are STILL a mod.
You don't like that you weren't informed that I was a MOD now.
I wasn't either... let's just go with it.
Unless you really want me to not be. If that is what you all want, let me know. I will step down and let you continue doing the job. It's all about NOT beating behind a bush and being mature enough to speak about it. I am not stupid, Efrat's not stupid, Robyn is not stupid and Stephanie is not stupid. The hints are there, the insults aret here. We need to stop!

Best thing to do is FIX this situation. If anything, we... or you should not be arguing, you should be helping each other out.
Everyone of us has lives. As much as many would like to think otherwise.

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Ok let me get my piece in I guess.

Splitting up the duties doesn't really make sense, especially with how quiet things have been on the boards as of late. Besides, as mods, our jobs are to fix any problems as we see them, not sit here like "well, I fixed this last time and this person fixed it the time before me so now it's this person's turn" only because we can never be completely sure when the next person is going to be around. That can also apply for moving threads, closing them and the like.

About Tasha becoming a mod, none of us was told that it was going to happen. We seriously just signed in one day and it had been done.

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fine, then i'm sorry this post was even made. all it did was create animosity and have people fighting and that was not my intention. i did not once try and make it sound like i have more of a life than anyone, nor tried to attack anyone else in the process. as for tasha being the mod, i just thought i was the only person who had not been told. i guess i got paranoid like efrat said and thought no one was telling me anything due to the PM i got from the admin. it's not a happy position to be in, you know?

i don't want to fight, i don't hate anyone even if they think that i do, i care about everyone on here. it's why i wanted to become a mod, it's why i consider all of you my friends.

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Then let's work something out together. Help each other out.

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Robyn, Efrat and Steph- If you collectively decide that you would like to divide the mod duties, then each of you will be assigned 2 sections to oversee and will only have mod duties on those 2 sections. Tasha is an appointed mod on a trial basis- think of her as your backup. She's there to help- let's try it out.

Robyn- my intention on messaging you was simply to check in with you to make sure all was well on your end. as it stated. it was not meant as an attack or an accusation. We're happy you're still all in!

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As I get it, both me and Steph are against the idea of dividing the mod duties. So as I see it, we should either decide that majority decides or have a conversation with all three (or four or five) of us and talk until we all agree on one solution. (And yes it will be hard to get to one solution we all agree on, that's where being mature comes along and we have to give up a little, each of us, for the sake of agreeing on something)

And well, about Tasha. If it all works out with her, which I am positive of, I think that there should be an announce for the members about it because they should know that they have a new mod that they can turn to and all.

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